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Post by Mr Nice GUY on Jun 9, 2005 21:11:37 GMT -5
Well thats it folks I have had it with crazy people! If people can't tell reality from fucking Fantasy thats their problem. And Anyone and I mean anyone that thinks because I have taken a stand on certain things, means I believe everything and anything they say and that if I disagree with them then I should be subjected to their authority , then that fucking person can go fucking DIE! I won't be treated like I am some idiots pupil, not at my age! I can tell when something stinks and when something doesn't. I can also tell when someone is or has become so obsessed with hatred and vengence that it is just ridiculous. The whole Elvis alive thing was nothing but a story scam and a battle between obsessed old bags. Those fans who looked for truth unfortunately had to deal with this unscrupulous lot. That Lot wouldn't know or understand truth if it kicked them in the teeth. Elvis was a singer nothing more. Elvis died. Deal with it! He wasn't Black, didn't have Doubles,LMP is his daughter,Marie is not! there is no BIG CONSPIRACY involved other than perhaps covering up the drugs for the sake of his family.No Larry, No Jon and especially NO EJ! ETAs they are involved in all this. Most ETAs should be shot and pissed on!So finally I said it and finally I say to all GO FUCK YOUSELVES.There is nothing left to find out. It has all been found out. It amounts to NOTHING but a very deceased Elvis and BS stories that fools fall for. If you like the music thats what counts and it goes for any singer.(Except Rap cause it aint music hell it aint even worth listening to) but if you like it thats your problem. I have spent a lot of time weaving in and around all these people and their BS and quite frankly I think there is something wrong with some of these individuals who are so obsessed with Celebrities. The image is one thing the person is another. Its the image that Celebrities live off. If you knew most of them personally you might find they are nothing more that your dipshit off the street! Well so much for the Jerry Springer world of Elvis Presley. BYE
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Post by Xman on Jun 9, 2005 21:21:53 GMT -5
Well I guess you finally cracked too. LMAO. See what happens when you try to appease the crazy? Sad thing is nobody will ever get thru to them they live in their own little world of what should be.
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Post by StlMagnolia62 on Jun 10, 2005 0:43:12 GMT -5
I do have to agree with you on a lot of these issues.I have always been an Elvis fan,but was so busy with family and business that it has only been the last few years that I started to research on the net about the Elvis alive stories.I have read a few books,such as the ones by GBG,and a few others.I can say that I have been very disappointed at what I have run into in the line of so called Elvis fans.I thought I would meet a nice group of people out there that I shared an interest with,and I have been shocked at the responses from other Elvis fans.Some are so rude its unbelievable,some are completly out of reality.I can't believe the way people behave on the internet.I hope they don't answer their phones or doors in the rude manner that they respond to people online.Now as far as Elvis being alive,or for that matter not really passing away in 77,I don't really know what to say about that.I believe that Elvis was a very depressed person,and his health was failing him,he was losing his youth,this all had to be very hard on him,and I believe that people can almost will themselves to die,if life is so unbearable for them.Then people will argue that he still had a career and long life ahead of him,if he wanted to pull himself together,but you know what?maybe he really didn't want to.he lost his Mother,his marriage went to hell,sometimes its so hard to see how far down another person really is.I think he was the most wonderful intertainer there has ever been.He was a special person,that maybe was sent here for a short time on this earth, we weren't suppose to see him grow old and lose his looks and youth,he was a special shining star,and that is how we should all remember him.He gave a lot of himself to his friends,family and fans,and he was tired,maybe it was time for him to say goodbye.I think deep down in my heart,I know Elvis is dead.I think it was a combination of the pills that morning that did it,his body just couldn't handle it any longer.I think the pills he took were to ease the phyiscal pain,but I also think some were to ease the pain of his broken heart.He finally realized that people whom he thought were his true friends for years,and that he would do anything for,weren't really his friends at all,their friendship ended when the free ride was halted.Then the woman he married ,divorced him after she was secure in the fact that she had set herself up for life by having his child,and his last name.Some of you may disagree with me on this,but I feel if Priscilla would have been a real wife to Elvis,and not some snotty little brat,their marriage may have been different,after she got that ring on her finger she set out to change him,she knew Elvis very well before she ever took that step,so I have to say she was dead wrong there.As far as ETAs go,well there are very few I would give the time of day to.I do like Jimmy Ellis,although he always made it clear he wasn't an ETA .And there are a couple more who do a good job singing his songs,but most of them are just losers,and I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.So anyway just my long winded thoughts on all of this.Its way past my bedtime,so I Have to say goodnight.
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Post by Paul Monroe AKA aronsivle on Jun 10, 2005 3:27:10 GMT -5
Sounds like you see what I did with Mary Smiley.I admit I fought to let Mary say what she thought and share her ideas.Now they were all pretty far fetched and sounded crazy but everyone was has right to thier opinions and thats why I have always fought to let everyone say thier peace and tell thier story.But over time so many people have said such garbage and agree with the guilty ones that there is no reason for me to try and defend someone when they are just going to make a single thing and turn it into garbage.I listened to Mary and what she had to say and I gave her benefit of the doubt with everything she presented.But the stuff she has come up with since the Dr.Hinton story was from me and my good friend who knows who he is.We were the ones who spent numerous hours finding stuff and proving our cases and just to let Mary turn it into garbage.We have had hell for associating with her and trying to defend her right to freedom of speech.We know Mary's background and we know what she has done and what she is able to do and that is really sad when you think about it.Don't get me wrong she knew alot of people and had some good stuff that she sent out to us in the mail and I thank her for that.But alot of things that she has laid claim to she has never backed up at all.That tells me she has nothing more than just old old old info and a vivid imagination.She also claimed she knew Elvis after 77 and had proof but had never produced any proof for us to see.When asked by me she said "well I'm not sure if it was the real Elvis'. If it was a good impersonator I'm all ears just to see if he was any good.But she never gave us anything to go on.She defends the guilty Tim Macvey,Peterson,Robert Blake,and Micheal Jackson. These people all guilyt of murder or child piddling.And she says they are innocent and that errks me the wrong way.She believes the guilty should walk free and that they don't deserve what they get for doing thier crimes.She wrote Tim in prison and asked if Elvis Presley was involved with killing all those people.I felt sorry for Mary cause people laughed at her and harrassed and now I see why they did.And she wrote that Tupelo Memphis Murders book that the EIA group is selling cause she sent us copies and it was all her documentation and had a refrence to Mary in a poem.She says she is writing a book and using our info that we found and worked hard for.She used us and it pissed both of us off cause we defended her right of speech and helped her get info.But for her to trash it and build it to suit her is just crazy.If I knew then what I know know I would have never given her time of day.But you live and learn and more so learn who your real friends are.And to think we defended a complete looney really gets to me cause I thought deep down she may of had something and thought she could use it for the good and to help the truth be known.But she didn't she used it for her own personal gain.Hell I had her on the phone one time and she called a news reporter and had me talk and act as Elvis and she told them she had Elvis on the phone.When you hear what she says and they she retracts herself and changes it made me believe I was being had.If I am wrong they I apologize but I don't think I am at all.Im more than sure am right with what I have heard from her mouth and what she has done.
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Post by Paul Monroe AKA aronsivle on Jun 10, 2005 4:01:38 GMT -5
Elvis the man and Elvis is the entertainer are to different things.Elvis the man was a very odd lil man indeed and his thoughts were just as odd.His life was a weird one and he had no control over any of it.He couldn't face life moreless the fact that his own actions cause his downfall in his own life.He was a drug addict,depressive, and a very insecure man who didn't know if he was coming or going.The yes men around him didn't proctect him nor keep him from harming himself.They liked the money and drugs they got and what they was able get off the money train.When things got too carried away and Elvis went too far there was nothing they could do.If it were me Id rather have my friends like I have now cause I know they would have steered my in the right direction and I'd do the same for them.But the MM didn't do that at all and they are all still reliving thier life with Elvis.They all knew what was going on and did nothing to help him.Elvis himself screwed himself and out himself in that position.Then he was too deep in his habits and when the truth came out he took his own life to escape his fans.But the Elvis world doesn't see this as that..They see it as Elvis was in trouble and faked his death to save himself and family.The Elvis fans...ie most of them believe that they know the truth and they are a society of people who can't think for themselves and believe what they are told to believe.They can't make thier own minds up and they all stick together with thier beliefs.2005 the same ol people believe the same thing and refuse to be change thier set ways.I myself an open minded and will give a person the benefit of the doubt until they screw me or lie or do something and let me take the blame.Thats why I am so quick to see the BS as it comes.And my friend too is the same way...Sure Kang and I discuss these issues on a daily basis and we both agree what is going on.We are not experts but we are pretty damn close on what we believe and we show proof of watch we have to say.We don't lie and we sure as hell don't let each other take the fall for anything that isnt our fault.We have seen the impersonators start in and seen them pull thier stunts and also have seen sites come and go.Plus we know there are some ETA's involved in some of these lies.And that there is a reason why they are doing this and what they are getting out of it.People like the Blong group,AJ,Ruth and these people who all say this and that have no proof of anything whatsoever.But yet we are the bad guys cause we can prove what we say and they can't.Marie aka Stasia aka Syble .. Jesus shes one of the biggest fakes out there.Larry and these others arent even real! they keep themselves hidden cause they know they are liars and they can't prove anything.But yet we can prove them wrong with everything they say.Larry Blong was never in Vegas,Jon isn't Elvis and Marie isnt Elvis's daughter.They are just people who like to cause trouble.We have researched all these people and have seen the holes in thier stories and thier group.Elvis isn't online and he sure as hell isn't looking for these people.Why would he involve himself with conartists like them? They have nothing to offer Elvis and they just arent anyone special.I'm not sayin we have anything for Elvis..We just tell the truth and as much as the truth hurts....We tell it..
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Post by Xman on Jun 10, 2005 8:11:54 GMT -5
To both StlMagnolia and PAul I can agree with what you both say for the most part. Elvis Presley had problems and its those problems that show he was just a person first and a Image second in reality. Too bad all the fandom tend to want to see him the other way around. Even dead they won't let the poor bugger rest. You know what happened with Elvis in his life and being who and what he was could serve for greater understanding and be a help to people. But because of money greed and whatever else goes with that there appears to be no hard lessons in it for anyone. It has been confused so bad people can't find the answers or at least without a great deal of study into all that has taken place. It is one thing to admire someone but its another thing to Idolize them. I have tried to distinguish between people within this concept when I was talking to them. It is those that I called innocent fans that admired him. It was the nuts I fought with. Some of those nuts are people who have just used the Alive story to cash in on for their own sakes. If you check into some of these folks you find that they peddle Elvis or they peddle their own garbage like Porn and Gambling or Nonsense books/Mags. Well such is the world today where everything is twisted. Lies are Truth and Evil is Good. It took a long time to build a civilized world but only a few decades to destroy it.
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Post by Kang 2 on Jun 10, 2005 13:21:40 GMT -5
I agree Kang ;D
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