So did Charlie Know Elvis?

[Xman]

This is a quote from an Interview by Seconds Magazine. It may explain why Elvis was so scared about Manson when he murdered all those people.

MANSON: Sure, why not? I hang out with all them people, that's my neighborhood. I lived in Elvis Presley's house, man. He ran me out of the yard. I got mad at him, I was going to to throw some rocks at him, ;cause I thought he was an idiot, an egotistical fucking punk. I never liked him even a little bit, but everybody else always kow-towed to him because he was rich and everything. But to me that don't mean shit. I dont give a fuck how rich you are, I'll bust you up anyway.


I believe Chucky boy is referring to one of the Hollywood houses. It doesn't say which one. But whats interesting is that Chucky was in fact running at one time with all these Hollywood people like Polanski who apparently Elvis knew as Elvis hairdresser was good friends with Sharon Tate and Polanski. Incedently this hairdresser was a drug dealer as well.

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Oh Chuckie was hucking rocks at Elvis....Thats funny although I believe Chuckie would have fucked Elvis up..He's that fucking crazy man...I remember reading about the Porn movies and that Mama Cass Elliott was banging 2 niggers....and that there was orgies all over the place along with the dope..But that California Dreaming crowd as I called it consisted of many of now famous folks the list as follows..
Cass Elliott
Danny Doughtery
Michelle Phillips
Papa John Phillips
Maquin & Mcquier- the original greenwhich vill folkies
John Sabastain
Scott Mackinze
These people were the ones that hung out with Manson and also the one Beach Boy was there a few times.

But hese porn flicks they did were underground porn..Granted Cass was a pretty lady with a beautiful voice...she was just a fat heffer..Michille Phillips..shit I would have boned her myself. They would all get loaded and fuck all night and all day..Its jut sad that Mama Cass would take on 2 Niggers....just not right for a white woman...Im not racist..I hate everyone...I know it was the time of free love but come one people..But I am sure if Chuckie said he hated Elvis then he hated Elvis..In Chuckies own mind he was a poet and songwriter who had influence on people..I mean with the right drugs you can influence anyone to do anything and Polanski had the right drugs for the people.I mean the Manson family still thrives big today...I remember writing to Chuckie in prison and there was a waver that one shouldn't write him due to the fact that his cult still was thriving strong today and there might be a chance that they coould come after you if you upset Chuckie...my opinion is this..I piss people off thats what I am payed to do...Its my living ..I make a life of pissing folks off and sometimes its really fun..So pissing Chuckie off would be no big deal to me..He I am more crazy that he is or he ever thought he was...I make him look like a kid...I use truth and logic and sponging when I piss people off and my track record is really good.I have a 98% ratio of pissing people off and the other 2% are idiots like Allen Damron who just dont understand things...Also I have 99% of getting the truth out of the people I piss off...I piss em off enough they blurt out shit and I get my info..easy peasy lemon squeezy..Also I am at a 75% of convincing people on the phone I am Elvis or Johnny Harra...Not too bad if you ask me...one would be suprised at how many people can be fooled by a mear voice...Im no Jimmy Ellis or Sivle Nora...but I hold my own and Im good at what I do..when one has 150 different vocies and over half are celebs well you see where I am going..I also do a convincing Cher too! I was just fooling around and it worked...so I do Cher too...Although my fav voice is Hank Hill...damnit Bobby ..I do that one to a T.

[Xman]

Lmao! Anywho. I think the of all the drug and kinky sex that the Hollywood crowd was into back then only serves to prove that the public at the time never had a clue about all this yet it happened. They saw these people on stage and within the image that they established but behind the scenes was something different. You know Elvis it was said never hit on married women but that was BS. He hit on Dorothy Harmony way way back. I got some more quotes I think I will post here that clearly give a different picture of Elvis than what the public knew. These are from people he knew well. Hell he was screwing around on his wife so why would he have a problem screwing someone elses wife? He used to watch people have sex from behind a two way mirror. He took pics of Priscilla in her underwear with other women. Why then is it hard to consider that he probably was involved with this group and knew them well? Hell Polanski named his son after him.

[Xman]

Here is one concerning that so called Blue Halo story attributed to Vernon Presley.

JANELLE McCOMB, FRIEND OF THE PRESLEY FAMILY: I've got to tell it like it is: There was no blue halo or no lightning flash back then; Elvis was just another kid on the block. Nobody, and I don't care who you ask, is gonna tell you any earth-shattering thing that they remember about Elvis in East Tupelo [Mississippi, where he was born and raised], because not even Elvis would have realized how earth-shattering he would become!

[Xman]

Here try this one. Then think about the Hollywood crowd like Sebring and Polanski.

FRANCES FORBES, A LATER FRIEND: I first met Elvis when I was thirteen and he lived on Audubon Drive. I was a fan--a fan who went down to the gate one night. I think he met lots of girls that way. A lot of them stayed with him for a long time, and a lot of them just faded away. He didn't pay any attention to me then, but when I was fourteen he noticed me. Fourteen was a magical age with Elvis; it really was.

[Xman]

Here is a doozie.

ARLENE COGAN, AN ELVIS GROUPIE: [When his mother died,] Elvis was just inconsolable. He walked around carrying Gladys's nightgown for days. He wouldn't put it down. He had no sleep-hadn't slept in days. He refused to go to sleep. He would sit there, and, I mean, he was totally exhausted and he would sit there holding his mother's nightgown. It went with him everywhere he went.

[Xman]

How bout this one that goes back to the early days.


BARBARA PITTMAN, AN ELVIS INTIMATE AND THE ONLY FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST ON THE SUN RECORD LABEL: I saw Elvis come down from his bedroom at Graceland so stoned out of his mind he didn't know where he was. He had a line of mirrors that ran along the stairs in the hallway. Elvis came down the stairs and said, "Hey, look at all them little Elvises! A thousand little Elvises here!" and that kind of thing. The doctor who took care of Elvis when his mother died was giving him tranquilizers, and he liked 'em.

[Xman]

How bout this. Notice that things didn't get put into the medical chart! So why would the autopsy coverup be any different?

DR. GEORGE NICHOPOULOS, ELVIS'S PERSONAL PHYSICIAN FROM 1967 UNTIL ELVIS'S DEATH: In November of '73, I believe, [Elvis] found this physician out in California who said he was giving Elvis acupuncture, but he was injecting him with syringes. He was using some local anesthetic, some Novocain, some Demerol, and B-12, and of course Elvis felt great afterward. . . . He was so sedated when he came back to Memphis, he was carried off the plane. . . . That was the first time I'd had to have him detoxified . . .

[During] that particular admission, the lab technicians were selling his blood and urine. It was crazy. A lot of things we didn't put in the chart because it was difficult to keep quiet. We didn't know how much Elvis was addicted, so we treated him like a Demerol addict. We stopped the Demerol and gave decreasing doses of methadone. After he got well, Elvis was sorry; he tried to behave himself. He promised not to do it again.

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About one full year before his death!


CHERYLE JOHNSON, FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE WORLDWIDE FEDERATION OF ELVIS PRESLEY FAN CLUBS AND THE ELVIS PRESLEY INTERNATIONAL MEMORIAL FOUNDATION: In Houston [August 28, 1976, at the Summit] people were actually sitting there crying when they saw Elvis. The show was like an hour-and-a-half late starting, which was unheard of for Elvis; his shows always started on time. . . . When Elvis finally came out, people were just appalled at his appearance. His body and face were extremely bloated and his eyes were vacant, like nothing was there. His skin was a pale yellow. His hands were all puffy. He couldn't move. He started with "C.C. Rider" and he flubbed the words. He went into another song and the same thing happened. A lot of people were getting up and leaving. . . .

I looked around at the fans sitting near me and I saw people just sitting there crying. You just couldn't believe what you were seeing. He stood there with the houselights up and shook anybody's hand that would come up to the stage. I mean, he would have stayed there all night shaking hands. Some girl wanted his ring. Elvis had a big turquoise ring on and he started trying to pull it off, but he couldn't. He was too swollen. It was sad, really sad. There was no encore. He walked off the stage. People just sat there. They really just couldn't believe what they had seen.

[Xman]

All of those posts show a very different nature than the Image. People who couldn't and still can't accept the drug problem he had can only believe the image. But this is what he was and probably more. This is what Money ,Fame, Hollywood and alll the leacherous fucks that run the show did to a young innocent kid. A kid who probably had some real problems that needed to be dealt with very early on. The goodness in Elvis was not enough to get him through, he simply lost control and gave up. All those around him could have helped him even if it meant destroying his career but oh no couldn't do that. Even after his death they couldn't let him just be. Elvis from 1954 to this day is nothing more than a dollar bill. Still a prisoner of of a false image. A non being entity just like Mickey Mouse. Now isn't that wonderful.